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    Why Freelancers Should #TalkPay

    1. diane @smartmoneysimplelife

      May 7th, 2015 at 7:17 am

      Thank you Stefanie. This information is invaluable for someone looking to move to freelancing. I imagine that once you’ve established a reputation it’s easy to set your own price but in the beginning it’s hard to know where to start.

    2. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:13 am

      Starting in the $30-50 is pretty reasonable in my opinion. I would just make sure you don’t get stuck there for too long.

    3. Aliyyah

      May 7th, 2015 at 7:17 am

      Wow. That is great to know. Thank you for sharing your rates. I am just getting into freelance writing. I want to supplement my income as my blog continues to grow. Now I have more hope that I can actually get paid a reasonable rate when I divide the pay by the number of hours I put into it. I even see people offering 500-word SEO articles on fiver for $5. It kind of hurts the freelance writing market. On the other hand, I know I can provide quality work that has been researched, proof-read and is publish-ready. Thanks!

    4. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:12 am

      I love Fiverr, but I would never go there for content and neither will major companies who want quality, thoughtful work. The gigs are out there and people will pay you well if you can find the right people.

    5. Kirsten

      May 7th, 2015 at 8:15 am

      THANK YOU!

      I’m pretty sure I’ve under priced every single gig I’ve ever done. And I decided it wasn’t worth the time and stress of working for $20-30 an hour (correlating the time of writing back tons hourly rate) when I make more than that at my 9-5… But this article makes me go “aha! Maybe it is worth another shot”

    6. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:11 am

      If you find the right gigs, it can definitely be worth it.

    7. Shannon @ Financially Blonde

      May 7th, 2015 at 8:25 am

      I am SO proud of you for sharing this and helping other freelancers!!! Last year I hired writers and I was shocked at the various pay levels some people asked for. The ones who asked for more were paid more and the ones who asked for less were paid less. If you build a solid business with excellent quality work, though, there is no reason why you shouldn’t make more, but it always helps to have an idea of what you can ask for.

    8. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:11 am

      It’s definitely an interesting discussion, and one I hope we can all start having more openly in the future.

    9. Holly@ClubThrifty

      May 7th, 2015 at 8:32 am

      #TalkPay is great!
      Hey, I don’t mind sharing. I like to make $100 an hour, so I generally formulate my pay rates around that goal. I will admit, like you, I still have one $100 job lingering. I still do it though because it only takes me about 30 minutes. Hard to complain when you’re making more than your desired hourly rate.

    10. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:10 am

      It’s hard for me to distill the work down to an hourly rate. My posts are SO variable in how long they take me to write.

    11. Mrs. 1500

      May 7th, 2015 at 9:00 am

      Thank you so much for sharing. This could NOT have come at a better time for me, I have a great opportunity, but wasn’t sure what to charge. AND I didn’t know who to ask about it, either. This is super helpful.

    12. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:09 am

      I’m glad it’s helpful- I wish there were more discussions like this- we can all benefit!

    13. Will

      May 7th, 2015 at 10:30 am

      Brilliant post! An entrepreneur told me the other day… “We overestimate the amount of people who want our services but we underestimate how much they will pay.”

    14. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:09 am

      Nice- like that quote.

    15. Tonya@Budget and the Beach

      May 7th, 2015 at 10:57 am

      Negotiating price is still one of the most difficult things for a lot of freelancers, including myself. We shouldn’t be afraid to walk away from jobs because they are way lower than what we should be making, yet we still fall prey to that sometimes. Thanks for being open an honest. It’s kind of inspiring to know what I could be making.

    16. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:08 am

      I’ve walked away a lot and it’s always been tough, but I think it’s walking away that allowed me to get to the point of commanding more.

    17. Michelle

      May 7th, 2015 at 11:07 am

      Love this! My sister is wanting to staff write more and I’m definitely going to send her to this post 🙂 I don’t write for others much anymore but when I do I usually ask for $200 or more.

    18. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:07 am

      Good to know- I think I really need to double my minimum to the $200 mark.

    19. Even Steven

      May 7th, 2015 at 11:12 am

      I agree with you Stefanie, the PF world talks so much about net worths and investments, but the #talkpay hardly ever comes out in discussions. I also think it’s important to recognize the experience associated with your current rate versus when you first started trying to get your name and work out there.

    20. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:07 am

      Absolutely- I could not have started asking for hundreds of dollars right off the bat. Those $30 posts were valuable in creating my reputation.

    21. Athena

      May 7th, 2015 at 12:43 pm

      Thanks for sharing Stefanie, I think I’ve been under pricing myself for awhile now. Just as a curious thought, do you still take on staff writing jobs or are those your $100 gigs? And does that mean $100 per post?

    22. Stefanie

      May 7th, 2015 at 6:35 pm

      Hey Athena- not sure what you mean by staff writing post. If you’re talking about writing for other blogs, I’ve found that those generally fall within the $20-75 range. The $100s and above are easier to get when you’re writing for businesses and corporations. Feel free to shoot me an email if you have more questions.

    23. DC @ Young Adult Money

      May 7th, 2015 at 1:34 pm

      “My latest freelance rate: The last piece I submitted paid $765 for 800 words. It was research heavy work, but overall, a pretty solid pay to time required ratio.” That’s a really solid ratio! Because I freelance on the side, I err on the side of charging more. If I don’t get work then I will use my time for my own projects or for other things that normal people do in their “free” time.

    24. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:05 am

      “free” time? What’s that? haha

    25. Melanie @ Dear Debt

      May 7th, 2015 at 4:16 pm

      I felt like I wrote a million articles for $25. When I finally got $100, $200 and $400 gigs, I realized I was totally undercharging. I was so angry at myself. My lowest client is now at $100. It has actually worked out perfectly. I still had some very low paying clients that recently went in a new direction, or we re-negotiated. So nothing less than $100. I will give friends discounts, but I don’t work for free for exposure. Never have and I’m not sure I will. At this moment, it’s not that important to me — paying off my debt is. Thanks for starting this convo! You are ROCKING it girl!

    26. Athena

      May 7th, 2015 at 5:56 pm

      Is that like $100 per staff writing post? I too have written a ton of articles for $25 and am starting to feel burnt out.

    27. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:04 am

      I’m with you on not writing for free almost all the time. But I can’t turn down things like huffpo- they’re just too powerful in building my reputation.

    28. No Nonsense Landlord

      May 7th, 2015 at 5:07 pm

      Great job!! Thank you for sharing.

      That means my own blog is worth MILLIONS!! Yea!

    29. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:03 am

      Haha, if only I made as much on my own blog 🙂

    30. Cat Alford

      May 7th, 2015 at 6:56 pm

      Great post Stefanie. I try to make around $100 an hour. That’s what I see as my “value” at the present moment so depending on how a post will take me, that’s how I price it. Curious about your opinion at the rate writers should start at. I started at $10/post 3 years ago. Someone would have to have a lot of experience and samples to jump in at $100/hour

    31. Stefanie

      May 7th, 2015 at 7:58 pm

      I would say $25-30 is a fair starting rate if you’re writing for other bloggers. Bloggers obviously don’t have the same budgets as corporations.

    32. Abigail @ipickuppennies

      May 7th, 2015 at 7:14 pm

      I’m always shocked that people agree to do posts for so little. Then again, my vision of freelance was skewed by only knowing my mom’s rates. And she’s been doing this for around 30 years.

      I don’t freelance much because of the pay issue.

      First of all, I get obsessive over what I write. I polish it. A lot. So I put way too much time into any given piece.

      Meanwhile, I have a high hourly rate at my job and can usually get extra hours if I want them. Plus, health problems mean I try not to take on too much extra work.

      I think I did a blog swap once, but that’s about it for free pieces. Otherwise, I’ve gotten around $200-300 for the three or so pieces I’ve done. That said, those were pieces that I got because my mom suggested me. (Hooray for nepotism!) And she only takes higher paying gigs.

    33. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:03 am

      Just knowing what the standard is helps so much so you don’t go in asking for $20 when it should be closer to $200.

    34. Michelle

      May 7th, 2015 at 8:20 pm

      I hope that people learn the following from this-you get what you ask for. Love. This. Post.

    35. Stefanie

      May 7th, 2015 at 9:16 pm

      Thanks Michelle. I hope we can all have more conversations like this 🙂

    36. LeisureFreak Tommy

      May 7th, 2015 at 11:58 pm

      Thanks for sharing this. I always wondered how much you could make if you were a good writer and entered the freelance world. I still have a lot to learn. After a lifetime of tech documentation I may be ruined for being able to write anything worth the rates you are talking about.

    37. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:02 am

      I come from a professional acting background- doesn’t dictate my rates when writing about finance at all 🙂

    38. Brian @ Luke1428

      May 8th, 2015 at 7:19 am

      Great stuff Stefanie! I just started freelancing and have two regular gigs…one that pays $100 and one that pays $200 per post. I’d write for free too if it gained me exposure but I’m being more selective on where/how often that happens now that I’m writing for money. I’m curious…how/where are you finding freelancing jobs? And are they all within the field of personal finance?

    39. Stefanie

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:01 am

      All of my jobs are within the personal finance realm. Many have come from referrals from other bloggers. I also pitched a lot of companies directly when I initially started out. Lastly, I have a “hire me” tab to make sure people know that I’m available for hire.

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    41. pippa

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:43 am

      Wow, thank you for sharing this! You are so right about this being a taboo subject! thank you! pippa

    42. Jayson @ Monster Piggy Bank

      May 8th, 2015 at 8:10 pm

      Stef, thanks for bringing up this topic. It’s time to talk about pay #talkpay. I hope everyone has the courage like yours for them to do so.

    43. Mel

      May 8th, 2015 at 10:36 pm

      Great post! I’ve gotten a lot more into sponsored content the last few months and literally had no idea what I was doing. I decided that since it wasn’t that important to me, I was just going to set ridiculously high rates (or so they seemed to me – $100-200) on my media kit and go from there. I had one really slow month, but other than that, I did way better than expected.

      I’d like to get back into more freelance writing this summer since I’m expecting to be unemployed until September, so it’s really fascinating to see everyone’s numbers. The highest I’ve made so far is $150, but I’ve definitely done more of my work for other bloggers in the $20-50 range.

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    45. Liz

      May 9th, 2015 at 8:39 am

      I love this, it is always difficult to price your work, but getting a conversation going about it makes it easier.

    46. Tre

      May 9th, 2015 at 10:41 am

      Thanks for starting this discussion and sharing your rates.

    47. Jerome

      May 9th, 2015 at 3:57 pm

      I don’t freelance in my career, but if I did (it’s indeed possible) I’d earn about $250,000/year.
      I do my work as an employee of a contractor, and am paid $38/hr plus overtime. This is at least $76,000, possibly as much as $120,000 figuring in all the overtime. Again, not a freelancer, not an actor, just a technology worker in the semiconductor design field. I’m making the machines that will replace me. I deserve more.

    48. Kayla @ Shoeaholicnomore

      May 9th, 2015 at 4:09 pm

      Man I’m under-priced. I guess it’s time to ask for some raises and renegotiate my rates with some clients.

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    50. Hayley @ Disease Called Debt

      May 10th, 2015 at 2:26 pm

      $1 per word is a fantastic rate! I recently put my fees up but nowhere near this amount. I’m nervous about increasing it again but I might look into it in a few months time. Thanks for sharing!

    51. Ramona

      May 18th, 2015 at 3:28 pm

      Terrific article and idea. When it comes to writing, I actually ask for about 30 bucks/piece, since I’m starting out and I’m not a native English speaker. My main business is web design and right now my rate (I know .. very small) is $500 for a web site design (responsive, modern etc.). I have 13 years of experience and the main reason for such a low price is that I live in a country where 500 bucks is a pretty darn good income for a month. I do plan on increasing the rates though, I know there is a lot of room to grow.

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    55. Alexandra Queen

      October 26th, 2015 at 2:42 pm

      Thank you for the advice!

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